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Craig



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PostPosted: Tue 25 Nov, 2008 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'll be fine with bug brakes as long as you only ever follow heavily loaded HGVs Wink Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue 25 Nov, 2008 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

riiiight... time to rob a bank then.
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PostPosted: Tue 25 Nov, 2008 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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errm.. no-one.. Pacey/Spacewagen on here (when he had his white fasty) did the beam on that but he hasn't been down to the club meet for a few weeks now cos he was expecting a new kiddy. Gonna find out what he did with his.

Also, gonna have to consider brakes at the same time I guess.


PM Lucky on here,he's the new owner of that fastback and he sent me loads of pics of how it's done on that.
If you get chance go and fetch those brakes from Foxy and have a look in his garage-well worth a trip Wink
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PostPosted: Wed 26 Nov, 2008 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Close enough to 90 degrees to adjust out with shims then Cool

So are you running spindles then Foxy? Talking to John from KCW he said that its possible to nearly get the apron on the ground without, I guess though that spindles would improve the ride no end.


Yep spindles as well.
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PostPosted: Wed 26 Nov, 2008 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I pressume you'll be running Porsche rims and making the most of the std brakes redrilled?

I' need to find a good set of wide 5 discs for B/j with dropped spindles but I want to get the minimum increase in offset. The worst case scenario would be type 3 disc brakes with adaptors on a drop spindle but this could add so much to the track I could end up without any narrowing Embarassed
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PostPosted: Wed 26 Nov, 2008 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Useful KCW link

T3 L/p from KCW

KCW Type 3 Air beam (has some useful info too)

More Air (but the pictures are helpful)



If you've got any more useful links of what you've found during your research post em up Wink (It's good to share!)
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PostPosted: Wed 26 Nov, 2008 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dimensional detail

Yet more info

ball joint beam in a type 3

more l/p info
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PostPosted: Wed 26 Nov, 2008 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Craig wrote:
So I pressume you'll be running Porsche rims and making the most of the std brakes redrilled?


Yep 4.5 fuch on standard discs, with some non standard calipers though. Wink


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PostPosted: Wed 26 Nov, 2008 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That looks awesome Si.. You using bug discs? with beefier calipers?

Would standard bug disc brakes be sufficient? ie, just drums would be?
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PostPosted: Wed 26 Nov, 2008 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep just standard bug discs.

As Craig said earlier I think, due to the weight of a type 3 I wouldn't run bug brakes. I've heard of people doing it in the states, yeah it would work but due to their small size they'd run hotter and you'd probably end up with bad brake fade.
I pressume you wanna run bug drums to keep the wide 5 stud pattern?
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PostPosted: Wed 26 Nov, 2008 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah.. that's pretty much it. I'm gonna struggle to find the cash quickly to go CSP or CB Wide 5. Plus, seeing as I doubt it'd add to the value of the car a whole lot it's whether it'd be worth it if I decided to sell next year (which is a possibility).

All swings and roundabouts. Just looking at options really.
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PostPosted: Wed 26 Nov, 2008 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Craig wrote:
So I pressume you'll be running Porsche rims and making the most of the std brakes redrilled?

I' need to find a good set of wide 5 discs for B/j with dropped spindles but I want to get the minimum increase in offset. The worst case scenario would be type 3 disc brakes with adaptors on a drop spindle but this could add so much to the track I could end up without any narrowing Embarassed


This fastback has got T3 discs with adaptors and Empi 5s (similar offset to your wheels,I think) and looks quite tucked

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PostPosted: Thu 27 Nov, 2008 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

brimfull wrote:
Craig wrote:
So I pressume you'll be running Porsche rims and making the most of the std brakes redrilled?

I' need to find a good set of wide 5 discs for B/j with dropped spindles but I want to get the minimum increase in offset. The worst case scenario would be type 3 disc brakes with adaptors on a drop spindle but this could add so much to the track I could end up without any narrowing Embarassed


This fastback has got T3 discs with adaptors and Empi 5s (similar offset to your wheels,I think) and looks quite tucked



Yeah I think the beam is 5" with shock towers on the inner wings, something I didn't want to do. Also it hasn't got dropped spindles.
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PostPosted: Thu 27 Nov, 2008 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool That fasty has reasured me no end! I can rebuild the front on the cheaper brake option initially (I plan to use the late type 3 calipers on the front, probable with cross drilled or grooved discs to improve the cooling.

Last night went really well, as it confirmed that my system will work perfectly Cool



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PostPosted: Thu 27 Nov, 2008 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that looks cool Craig.

So how easy is it to fit type 3 brakes to a type 1 trailing arm? Cos I'm not that bothered about running adaptors to get it back to wide 5 for the time being and seeing as I'm having the disk set up off Foxy I could put it to use.

Just means I've gotta go a little narrower.
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