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Foxy



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PostPosted: Thu 27 Nov, 2008 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Type 3 brakes and type 1 brakes are the same, well same discs and calipers.
I wouldn't bother with the discs off me TBH. The discs themselves are f*cked anyway so the only thing you'd use is the calipers, the spindles and backplates wouldn't be any use anymore. Actually the backplates might be the same as type 1 but I don't know for sure.
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PostPosted: Thu 27 Nov, 2008 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that's why I was asking really. So what I need to do is find a complete balljoint bug beam with discs... or get a linkpin beam and aftermarket discs? (Damn wide 5s!!!)
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Craig



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PostPosted: Fri 28 Nov, 2008 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got some greasy old Type 3 Calipers ready for me to rebuild, and I could have sworn they were meatier than the type 1 Confused

Also what is the clearance like on adaptors to the brake caliper? I've only ever seen adaptors fitted on drums Confused
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PostPosted: Fri 28 Nov, 2008 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm pretty sure that fasty is running adaptors but I think he had to fit spacers too.

I'm pretty sure the 67-71 calipers are the same as late bug ones
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Foxy



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PostPosted: Fri 28 Nov, 2008 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

blistered wrote:

I'm pretty sure the 67-71 calipers are the same as late bug ones


Yeah thats right. the 72-73 ones are weird and hard to get parts for. So hope you haven't got a pair of those Craig.
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PostPosted: Fri 28 Nov, 2008 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Foxy wrote:
blistered wrote:

I'm pretty sure the 67-71 calipers are the same as late bug ones


Yeah thats right. the 72-73 ones are weird and hard to get parts for. So hope you haven't got a pair of those Craig.

I think later ones are the same as T4 so are a bit harder to find
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PostPosted: Fri 28 Nov, 2008 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So that'll be the case then I'll have the awkward ones (Sod's law Laughing )

I was thinking of making up my own adaptors to clear as I've got some chunky billets lying around Cool
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PostPosted: Fri 28 Nov, 2008 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adaptors should be a problem for me either.. My uncle owns a machine shop Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat 29 Nov, 2008 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it all works out nicely I may get some of those multi-pot calipers from Heritage (if I can wait that long) and run them with cross drilled and grooved discs.
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PostPosted: Fri 05 Dec, 2008 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone got any experience of this set up?


I cant find any detail on what these add to the track. And I can get a set at a reasonably good price (as soon as the pound actually has more value that toilet paper Rolling Eyes )
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PostPosted: Fri 05 Dec, 2008 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

isn't that what Foxy used on the 65?

I've potentially got a complete balljoint beam setup lined up... and will be running late 5 stud drums as a temporary solution until I can afford to build up the disc setup.

Let the fun begin Smile
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PostPosted: Fri 05 Dec, 2008 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought he had the ones that looked like a brake drum centre but couldn't be used with drop spindles Confused
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PostPosted: Fri 05 Dec, 2008 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dare say he'll be along later to correct me Smile I can't actually say I've ever looked at them that closely because of the covers.
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PostPosted: Fri 05 Dec, 2008 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah it looks like Empi have changed their kit. My kit uses a bracket to mount the caliper, and its the weak point. Obviously they realised and changed it. It looks like a good kit now.
It does look to me like there might be an increase in track though. I measured mine and there was an increase of 2mm, but the discs are shaped like a normal drum in the centre, whereas they look flat in the pictures.
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PostPosted: Fri 05 Dec, 2008 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Evening chaps, sorry for the late reply on this one.....been a little busy.

Your cars coming along nice Foxy and I like your ideas Craig... Wink Cool

I completed my T1 setup about 18 months back and it drives really nice, but its currently off the road while I build new shock towers, fit my air shocks and fiddle with a rack and Pinion setup....I might even do a body off Rolling Eyes Wink

I'm running a king and link beam, dropped spindles and Airkewld Brembo's. The beam has caster shims in the top to help itself centre and was narrowed 6". It's a very similar setup to what T3D use as I consulted Puppy and Chris (with the candy square) during the build-up.

I can sit the car on the floor and raise it quite high due to the beam sitting higher than standard, but I did have to cut the lower original beam mounts off first.

I'm in the process of changing the mounting area as I don't like the space above/below the beam mounts and would highly recommend making a strap to hold the bottom area under the car.

Will post up some pics when I get a min. Shocked

Any questions, feel free.

Paul
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